cardoperatedboy: (bettar than u!!1!)
Seriously, guys, we can talk like this for hours:


<Riku> *punches you =\*
<Riku_Replica> ...
* Riku_Replica PUNCHES BACK, BETTER THAN YOUR ORIGINAL PUNCH!!1!
<Riku> *OH LIKE NO WAY. TOTALLY PUNCHES HARDER THAN YOU CAN EVER HOPE TO PUNCH >\*
* Riku_Replica punches uh TWICE then
<Riku> >\\ *punches three times*
* Riku_Replica punches with BOTH HANDS
<Riku> *CUTS YOU WITH A KEYBLADE*
* Riku_Replica JUMPS ON YOU
<Riku> *FLIPS YOU*
* Riku_Replica OWNS YOU IN THE FACE um wait
<Riku> ...
<Riku> right
<Riku> never thinks about sex
<Riku_Replica> IN A DEATH WAY, NOT A SEX WAY
<Riku_Replica> WHERE IS YOUR MIND, REAL THING
<Riku> YOU CAN'T DEATH IN MY FACE WITH YOUR COCK
<Riku_Replica> LEAVE MY COCK OUT OF YOUR FACE
<Riku> IT'S YOUR COCK DON'T PUT IT THERE
<Riku_Replica> YOU'RE THE ONE PUTTING IT THERE!
<Riku> I AM NOT
<Riku_Replica> THEN DON'T BRING IT UP
<Riku> I'M PRETTY SURE IF IT'S UP IT'S YOUR FAULT
<Riku_Replica> ...
* Riku_Replica punches
<Riku> *punches back >\*



<Riku> =D
<Riku> 8D
<Riku> god I can't hit the eight key to save my life
<Riku_Replica> HAH
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> 8
<Riku_Replica> !!!
<Riku> .........
<Riku> you kinda
<Riku> fail, replica
<Riku_Replica> But I can hit 8
<Riku> ......congratulations, really
* Riku stabs you in the face
* Riku_Replica stabs you in the face... 8 times!
<Riku> .......
<Riku> ....OH HAY
<Riku> the astrick key is 8
<Riku> ....I can hit it now =D
<Riku_Replica> CURSE YOUR LEVEL UPS
<Riku> 8888888888
<Riku> =D
<Riku_Replica> 88888888888888888888
<Riku> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888
<Riku> I h8 you
<Riku_Replica> Isn't it gr8?
<Riku> ... *fucks you in the... gr8*
<Riku_Replica> ....
<Riku_Replica> what




<Riku> WHERE ARE YOU TOUCHING ME REPLICA
<Riku_Replica> IN THE SECRET PLACE BY THE WATERFALL
<Riku> OH I LIKE THAT SPOT
<Riku_Replica> I KNOW, YOU AND SORA SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXPLORING IT AS CHILDREN
<Riku> THOSE ARE SOME OF MY FONDEST MEMORIES
<Riku_Replica> O I KNOW. BELIEVE ME. I KNOW.
<Riku> ..............
<Riku> hey. you can't have those memories
<Riku> those are mine





<Riku> .....you know. amnesia would do the replica a world of good
<Riku_Replica> NO SHIT RIKU
<Riku> one day riku should beat him into amnesia
<Riku> and then he'd be all okay
<Riku_Replica> "I-- I'm HAPPY again!!"
<Riku> and then he's get hit on the head and remember everything
<Riku> it'd be great


ETA:

<Riku> CAUSE YOU ALWAYS WANTED MY LOVE AND ALSO MY COCK
<Riku_Replica> I NEVER EVEN LIKED YOU, YOU JACKASS
<Riku> NO BUT YOU'RE INCREDIBLY FIXATED ON ME
<Riku> MEANWHILE, I NEVER REALLY EVEN THOUGHT OF YOU AGAIN
<Riku_Replica> Because you're a jerk
<Riku_Replica> I have a sad dying scene on you
<Riku_Replica> and you're like "...HAY I'MMA GO FINISH THE STORY NOW 8D"
<Riku> "THANK GOD I FINALLY FINISHED THAT FUCKING MIDBOSS"




<Riku> AND DONT' MAKE THE NICE FACE
<Riku> Oh wait that's the sad face isn't it
<Riku> hahaha
<Riku_Replica> It's sort of both
<Riku> yah it's kinda
<Riku_Replica> it's his I ACCEPT YOUR COMFORT, PALTRY AS IT IS REAL THING face
<Riku> in the middle
<Riku> shut up =\
<Riku> THIS IS NOT PALTRY
<Riku> NOR IS IT COMFORTABLE
<Riku_Replica> "It'll go somewhere. Probably where mine'll go." "Heh, how original. ...oh well."
<Riku_Replica> V. COMFORTING
<Riku_Replica> OH WELL
<Riku_Replica> YOU TRIED <3
<Riku_Replica> I accept your ass, paltry as it is.
<Riku> my ass is better than your ass
<Riku_Replica> I'm adding that to the quote file
<Riku> as long as you admit it
<Riku_Replica> It's the SAME ASS YOU RETARD
cardoperatedboy: (bettar than u!!1!)
What the hell, Real Thing?! Take these handcuffs off right now! Do you wanna fight?!
cardoperatedboy: (determination makes it happen)
[...see I'd planned to do this BEFORE CHRISTMAS, only you know what the weeks before AND after Christmas are like.]




[OFF IN THE KITCHEN]

I'm ready to kick this dough's ass.
cardoperatedboy: (omg STFU DIE.)
The Replica and his Oedipal Complex

Okay, let's face it. The replica's inherently Oedipal. Loves his mother -- too much? Wants to kill his father? Yes okay.

Riku as the replica's father is a pretty obvious jump here; whether or not it was something he knew at the time or wanted, he had his 'data' -- something of his essence -- taken and used to create a new creature who shared physical features and abilities with him. (By this logic, Vexen was the original mother, which is kind of disturbing, but we're not going there.) Riku's father to replica twice over; first with the base blueprints he unintentionally provides; and second, for the replica's 'second birth', through the pattern of his memories as assumed via the Destiny Islands card, which "contains memories of Sora and Riku's home), and then shaped and reformed by Namine.

The first-birth replica's father-hate is Oedipal in the Freudian sense -- ie, there's a sense of competition with. He's embarrassed to be compared to a "coward" who's "afraid of the dark". He doesn't think of himself in relation to Riku at that point, per se, but he struggles against Riku nevertheless as a point of competition. The Freudian-Oedipal implications of this only grow with the replica after the falseness of his memories have been returned; Freud's Oedipal complex is often misinterpreted, but is essentially a response to authority and fear of loss of love in that the 'child' struggles against the 'father' (any authority/disciplinary figure) to try to acheive independance without receiving punishment and without losing the love of the nurturing figure. By the time the replica returns to face Riku again, broken and terrified of being swallowed by the overwhelming Riku 'shadow' in him, he's fighting both against the physical Riku and against the Riku inside him he can't get rid of, trying to achieve a separate identity again.

Perhaps the most interesting in regards to Oedipus's relationship to his father in the myth, too, is the middle stage -- the one where the replica has been made to believe he is Riku. Just as Oedipus came to Thebes and became King, marrying the Queen and performing the duties of the King identity, only to find that the original King had been his father who he had killed at the crossroads on the way to Thebes, the replica 'becomes' Riku, protecting and loving 'the girl from Destiny Islands' with all the sense of rightness of a past between them that had never happened, only to find that he was playing his originator's role without any knowledge of that assumption of identity. And the Queen here, Jocasta-Namine, had known it before he did.

Namine as the mother to the replica, Jocasta-Namine, is an interesting figure. I mean, I don't think we can deny that she was definitely the mother of the replica's second birth (taking over from Vexen AGAIN, NOT GOING THERE); even if it is implied to be coerced in some sense, it's her power that shapes the replica and creates him anew as 'Riku'. It's her power which makes him fall in love with her through the role he's been put into as his own father -- ie, she writes memories to support the fact that he is Riku, his own originator, by making him remember loving her, and by doing this both achieves satisfaction and makes him become more his own father. He performs this falsely-based love with both intensity and passion, like the original Oedipus, unaware of the reason for the discord around him (with Oedipus, the plague on Thebes; with the replica, the identical memories she had also written into Sora). As mentioned before, Jocasta and Namine both knew who Oedipus/the replica really is before they do; Jocasta realizes it along the way and doesn't vocalize her fears until it's too late, while Namine knows from the start and doesn't explain to anyone until it's too late to save the replica. And while Jocasta cannot bear her own sin and hangs herself, Namine can't bear her own sin -- ie, the replica trying to fight Sora to protect her from what he THINKS is the fake -- and kills him.

Interesting that these are both -- for Jocasta and Namine -- results of guilt and the awareness of their own role; Namine cares genuinely for Sora, and perhaps what makes the confrontation between him and the replica worst for her, I would assume, is that she knows the replica wouldn't be confronting him in this manner if she hadn't affected him. We see her guilt-attachment after; she stays by his body. Like Jocasta, the twisted/abomination love is far overshadowed by guilt.

On a final Oedipal note, on Freud's interpretation of the maternal side of the equation -- while the replica is more than willing to overthrow his father's authority out of an impulse to survive and prove himself a separate being (the paternal side of the Oedipal complex to a T), the replica also doesn't want to lose the love/protection relationship with Namine. Even when denying and struggling against the false identities as a part of himself and a part of Riku, the replica holds to the only thing he says he has: his promise to protect Namine. Freud's Oedipal complex is about maneuvering the complicated path of an individual trying to prove their individuality without being crushed by the father, and yet maintaining the original child-mother bond in revised form.

So in short: Uh killin' his father, lovin' his mother: Oedipus Replica. Lulz?
cardoperatedboy: (him and his shadow)
The replica's almost normal when he's not thinking about Riku all the time. But -- when Riku comes up he destabalizes. And this is partly because he's by necessity of two minds of the issue of what to do about Riku.

See, the original part of him, the part that was its unique person doesn't want to be compared to Riku. It's never liked Riku; it mostly planned to overcome him to prove a point. It never really planned to kill him, so much as make an example of him; it only fought Riku for the first time because Vexen told him to, but during the course of the fight it became personal when Riku implied he was better than the replica by virtue of not being fake. That side wanted to prove Riku wasn't. Riku HAS to live just long enough to realize that, at least.

The part of him they fucked with and convinced to believe he WAS Riku, down to a completely formed past and childhood -- it needs to eliminate Riku entirely. While Riku is there it can't exist, because it casts discord. Two versions of the same person can't both be real, after all. And even if the Replica knows this side of itself is faked, it responds to it still, as we see through its responses to Namine.

Annnd the replica after the fact is a burdened, deeply wounded mish mash of tattered remains of both and doesn't know why it's feeling any of its feelings, what side it comes from, it just knows it all comes down to Riku.

And it wants to make the pain stop.


Half Jack - the Dresden Dolls

Half underwater
I'm half my mother's daughter
a fraction's left up to dispute
the whole collection
half off the price they're asking
in the halfway house of ill repute

Half accidental
Half pain, full instrumental
I have a lot to think about
You think they're joking?
You have to go provoke him...
I guess it's high time you found out

It's half biology and half corrective surgery gone wrong
you'll notice something funny if you hang around here for too
long ago in some black hole before they had these pills to take it back
I'm half jill
and half jack

Two halves are equal
a cross between two evils
It's not an enviable lot
but if you listen
you'll learn to hear the difference
between the halfs and the half ...nots

And when I let him in I feel my stitches getting slicker
I try to wash him out but like she said: the blood is thicker
I see my mother in my face
but only when I travel
I run as fast as I can run
but
Jack comes tumbling after....

And when I'm brave enough and find a clever way to kick him out
and I'm so high not even you and all your love could bring me down
on 83rd he never found the magic words to change this fact:
I'm half jill
and half jack

I'm halfway home now
Half hoping for a showdown
Cause I'm not big enough to house this crowd

It might destroy me
but I'd sacrifice my body
if it meant i'd get the jack part
out

see
jack
run
jack
see
jack
run
jack

see
jack
run
cardoperatedboy: (GASP!!)
Where is everything?!

Sora?!

Namine?!



((Back in a few, showering! Back!))
cardoperatedboy: (leave me as you found me)
When the Replica sleeps he dreams of Destiny Islands; the sun beaming down and him and Sora shoving at each other, competing. The sound of his own laughter hard in the air as Namine picks him, draws, smiling, her face hidden as she bends over her sketchbook. It's a hot day and he's stripped down to his shorts and on top of the world, the sound of the waves beside him, the wind blowing salt on his skin, the sand hot beneath his feet and shifting, getting in between his toes, coarse and real--

When he wakes, though, he's cold.
cardoperatedboy: (when is a fake not a fake)
Riku Replica canon description:

Sora's Game

Jiminy's Journal

Characters I: Riku Replica

A replica of Riku created by Vexen from the real Riku's data.
Through Namine's power he was infused with false memories and made to believe he was the real Riku.
The truth has wounded him deeply.


Sora's Tale III

Sora pressed on in his search for Namine, and can you believe it? He found Riku, his best friend whom we thought was lost.
Sora was so happy, but Riku attacked him just like that, saying, "I'll protect Namine!"
What could he mean? Will something happen if Sora finds Namine?
Sora is chasing after Riku... and the answers.


Enemy Card: Riku

* Sleight Lock
Keep cards in sleights available for reloading.
Duration: 5 sleights
* Resistant to fire, ice, and lightning.

(My interpretation in a world without cards: Past the point he should have the resources to act, he keeps going.)



Riku's Game

D Report

Characters I: Riku Replica

A replica of Riku created by Vexen from the real Riku's data.
Unlike the real Riku, he wields darkness freely, but is burdened by the fact he is an imitation.


Riku's Tale III

Embattled with the darkness in his heart, Riku met someone who looked just like him, a replica crafted by Vexen, a member of the Organization.
The replica commanded darkness freely, and called Riku cowardly for neglecting the dark.


Riku's Tale IV

Vexen took his replica of Riku and headed for the surface, but finally fell at Sora's hands.


Riku's Tale VI

Guided by the enigmatic DiZ, Riku made his way through Twilight Town, defeating his copy and locating Namine.
cardoperatedboy: (but where will my heart go)
Riku Replica storyline, in video format!

I... think/hope/BELIEVE everything's in the right order; it involved some pretty hardcore youtube diving to get this all. XD



Vexen takes Riku's data [Riku's side] - ...mostly by getting his ass handed to him.

Riku meets his Replica [Riku's Side] - the Replica is made and goes to confront the Real Thing. They fight, and then after the Replica gets away, he talks with Vexen 'bout how that turned out.

Brainrape! [Riku's side] - Sorry about the length of this one; I couldn't find the scene by itself. The scene takes place from 1:25 to 4:40. The Replica shows up to say he's awesome and finds himself bent over and raped in the ear. In other words, has his heart changed to believe he's Riku, but with Namine in Kairi's usual place.

1st Encounter with Sora [Sora's side] - After the brainrape, the Replica thinks he IS Riku, and he's got a bone to pick with Sora.

2nd Encounter with Sora [Sora's Side] - "You're always trying to worm your way into my heart!" "Whoa, whoa, I don't remember doing that!" "You don't care about my feelings!" "I won't let you push me away." ...k.

3rd Encounter with Sora [Sora's Side] - Wait guys why do we have th esame memories again? Uh. CAN'T HANDLE DISCORD, FIGHT TIME.

End of 3rd encounter [Sora's Side] - follows immediately on the above. SHIT LOST FIGHT RUN AWAY RUN AWAY cannot COPE.

Where'd Riku Go? [Sora's Side] - o snap the Replica's absence's gotten Vexen in trouble!

Vexen's talk with Sora [Sora's side] - no Replica in this one, but Vexen hints at the truth.

4th Encounter with Sora [Sora's Side] - in which Namine breaks the Replica's heart and death happens ow!

Before the fight with Marluxia [Sora's Side] - in which the Replica shows you can't keep a good Replica down.

"Protect Namine." "Me?" [Sora's Side] - after the first fight with Marluxia, in which Sora is going off to fight this battle alone and leaves Namine in the Replica's care.

First half of Sora's Ending [Sora's Side] - in which the Replica takes his leave to parts unknown, aka trying to get powerful and eat people.

*Munch*[Riku's Side] - I hear Zexion's tasty. Again, apologies for length; couldn't find the scene by itself. Scene takes place between 2:25 and 3:58.

Final scenes with the Replica [Riku's side] - For once and for all, the Replica decides to prove he's real by getting rid of the person he'd always be compared to. It doesn't work so well. Again, apologies for the length; couldn't find the scene by itself. The scene itself takes place from 5:35 to the end of the clip.
cardoperatedboy: (proof through combat)
The Riku Replica and Fighting

At some point, the Riku Replica might want to fight with you. It's -- sort of what he does in the game: Have emotional declarations and moments of speshul ("That's just like you, Sora! You've always tried to worm your way into my heart!" "Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't remember doing something like that!" "YOU NEVER CARED ABOUT MY FEELINGS" <-- canon lolz)... and fight people. A lot.

Like, the Riku Replica wins the prize for Most Number of Boss Fights In a Single Game, at 6. Now, of course, in order for the plot to progress, you have to win -- otherwise you're dead and get the continue/game over screen. So in terms of storyline, the Riku Replica has always lost every fight he's set out to do. The only possible exception is if you consider his 'eating' Zexion to have been a fight. (I don't. XD)

...That doesn't mean he's a pushover. In both games he is, quite simply, one of the hardest fights you'll face. In Sora's game, the only enemy I found harder than him was Axel, and THAT was only because my deck wasn't made for facing an element-strong/weak enemy (it was mostly physical). Compared to the Replica, the final fight was really a piece of cake. Likewise, in Riku's game, there were only two bosses I died fighting. The Replica and Ansem. I died five times before I ended up running around enough to level up Riku to the point where he could beat the Replica. Ansem? Died once, due to carelessness.

So yeah. Be warned that the Replica might want to fight with you, and he's a tough battle. He might want to fight for a number of reasons -- to get stronger, to try to absorb your darkness, to make a statement of his identity. But he DOES do a lot of fighting, and is no stranger to challenging people to fights.

That said, I am perfectly willing to lose. I am willing to lose EVERY TIME. All I want out of the battle is for it to be a tough one for your character's level. Like, so his level is directly proportional to yours, except in the cases where someone is noticably stronger or weaker than 'most' characters. Have him just be slightly stronger, so that you can overcome but it takes effort -- if you're not at the end of your healthbar and kind of "oh god wait how did I DO that" in game, it's not a fight with the Replica. XD I think it would be lots of fun to replicate that in CFUD and have him lose, but only have you win by the skin of your teeth!

Tell me if you're okay with this.

His main attacks are physical (attack with his sword, Soul Eater), or of the power of darkness: an unnamed blast of energy that throws Riku down at one point, and Dark Firaga (a darkly glowing energy ball he flings at you), Dark Break (he leaps into the air and pogosticks on your head using his sword), and Dark Aura (he glows, floats into the air, zips around smacking you with his weapon a lot, then darkness explodes from the ground to do damage).

Let me know if you're NOT okay with fighting him ever, and I'll find excuses, of course. Nobody should ever be bullied into a fight, etc etc etc. :3
cardoperatedboy: (-_-)
Random canon question quibble ...curiousity.

The Riku Replica's Heart

One of the big points of canon haziness is about the Replica's heart. Mostly: what the heck happened to it. His heart was a synthetic heart created by Vexen; we know the original scientists were able to do this, so it's not really that big a deal. It was all enfused with darkness and generally a creepy place.

Then Bad Shit Happened -- in the game, Marluxia and Larxene politicked Vexen into a position where he agreed to rewrite the Replica (and then Larxene beat the Replica up); in the manga, he insulted Larxene, who dragged him off for a little fun and bent him over the table. Either way, he ended up being brought to Namine and have his heart altered -- his memories rewritten so that he believed he was the real Riku, with Namine in the place Kairi would have been for the real Riku.

All's well and good but essentially, one of the times the Replica fought Sora, Namine panicked and used her creepy witch powers to break this synthetic heart. Remember, in KH verse, the 'heart' -- essence -- is manifested in a physical, crystal-like form. Namine shatters this. The Replica collapses, dead. The manga leaves him there (except for the comedy 4-panel comics), dead for good. In the game, however, Namine stays by his side, then is kidnapped by Marluxia, and SOME TIME LATER, while Marluxia is busy telling Sora he shouldn't be inviting a broken heart, stupid kid, does he want to end up an empty shell like the Replica, the Replica shows up out of nowhere to be like "GUESS AGAIN" and attacks him.

...which is awesome really but HOW? From this time on, the Replica has his old memories alongside the new, and is aware that he's 'a fake'. Later, too, when talking to Riku, the Replica shows a fear of death and asks where his heart will go after he dies.

Which certainly implies he has one.

Sooooo there are alternate reads of this. Perhaps the altering has simply been undone -- but Namine said if she did that, the person would forget, and also that she couldn't do that for the Replica. And we know she shattered his heart. Or maybe he woke up without a heart, Nobody-esque (he does rant about feeling empty, later) and just didn't fully realize what happened. Or perhaps the adjustment we know happened involved replacing his synthetic one with a new one, an unpatterned one of some sort, and someone (Axel, perhaps?) stuck his old heart in while his corpse was left abandoned in the hall.

I'm playing it that he DOES have a heart now, but still has the fragments of his old one; I think that supports the awarenesses he has and the emotional wounding best, while still fitting everything everyone says. (Axel, if you want to be the one who replaced it instead of it, I dunno, magically returning, let me know.)

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